Have you ever wondered if you became a leader intentionally or if you stumbled into it one day and never looked back? What if leadership wasn’t about having all the answers, but about learning how to play again?
In this episode of the Inspirational Leadership podcast, I speak with Joel Hilchey about what it really means to lead like a human. In addition to leading the Beanstalk Creative team, Joel maintains a busy schedule as a keynote speaker, creating unforgettable spectacles on stage. He’s the father of 3 kids, and he attempts to be a good husband. Joel has authored 4 books (2 of them with Brandon Love), his latest one is called: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 6½ 𝘏𝘢𝘣𝘪𝘵𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘏𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘭𝘺 𝘋𝘦𝘧𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘉𝘰𝘴𝘴𝘦𝘴. He taught engineering for over a decade at McMaster University, where he was named one of the Top 150+ Alumni. He’s a seasoned barbershop quartet singer, he formerly chaired the board of the world-renowned Hamilton Children’s Choir, and he’s a semi-competitive joggler (that’s right… juggling whilst jogging).
Listen in to learn about the accidental manager problem and how a lack of training creates a ripple effect in organizations. You will also learn the many faces of poor leadership — feedback fumbling, credit stealing, finger-pointing, inconsistency, and mediocrity mongering.
Key Takeaways:
- How to blend meaning and play to create stronger workplace cultures to avoid killing creativity.
- The concept of the accidental manager, why it’s so widespread, and the four key leadership functions.
- The difference between task-focused and people-focused leadership, and how to balance them.
- The importance of intentional calendar design and unstructured time for reflection and long-term thinking.
- How to focus on only three main priorities to prevent divided attention and achieve true productivity.
- The three ways leaders mishandle feedback and how to build a culture of real-time, conversational feedback.
- The importance of balancing flexibility with predictability in leadership decisions.
What You Will Learn in This Episode:
- [03:38] Joel explores the idea that the best workplace cultures are never rigid or overly serious.
- [06:33] He shares his entire career journey from leaving the corporate life to becoming an accidental manager.
- [12:58] The “accidental boss” phenomenon and how untrained leaders can unintentionally harm culture.
- [21:34] The two-by-two leadership matrix: balancing short-term and long-term, people and tasks.
- [29:30] The importance of managing energy and preventing exhaustion through better scheduling as a leader.
- [32:00] Contrasting flexibility with predictability: how both are essential for organizational stability and adaptability.
- [36:17] The habits that define bad bosses and feedback fumbling — the art of doing feedback badly, or not at all.
- [40:49] Credit stealing and finger-pointing: leaders who never take responsibility and the benefits of recognition and appreciation.
- [42:54] Understanding consistently inconsistent bosses, the bad habits of bully bossing and hassle making, and how they impact teams.
- [47:04] How avoiding accountability encourages mediocrity and how great leaders recognize and honor each person’s unique strengths.
- [51:08] A sports analogy that shows the importance of delegation and letting go of control as a leader.
- [54:25] The section of Joel’s book where real stories bring humanity to leadership lessons and the book’s deeper message.
Standout Quotes:
- “We need enough predictability for people to feel stable and do good work, but we need enough flexibility to actually adapt to what’s happening around us.”– Joel [33:11]
- “Bosses need to have a philosophy about how to handle differences in performance in the team.”– Joel [49:12]
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Resources Mentioned:
- Learn more about Joel and his work here
- Connect with Joel on Linkedin and Instagram
- Joel’s new book – The 6-and-a-half Habits of Highly Defective Bosses: Serious Lessons for Accidental Managers
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